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I made a three-layer papercut. The layers don't actually match up very well, but I'm happy with it anyway, probably because all that Blue is affecting my cognitive function. Need to solve the technical problem of how to transfer a design to multiple sheets. The answer is not "chalk dust," I have learned.
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The Mongolian language recognizes two separate colors, цэнхэр and хѳх, both described by the word "blue" in English, which I think is pretty neat. This one is хѳх.
For the past several months, I have been working on convincing my brain that "light blue" and "dark blue" are two separate colors, no more related than blue and green, the way a Mongolian would conceive of them. I'm very curious about how difficult this is, as an example of "language shapes thought," and how flexible brains are about that sort of thing.
Convincing Myself There Is No Such Color As Blue: I have weird hobbies.
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Date: 2014-05-27 05:31 pm (UTC)Apparently not. Translations I've seen are blue, azure, light blue, sky blue, aqua. For gray in Russian, Google Translate lists серый, седой, пасмурный, мрачный, сумрачный, бледный.
In English we speak of "dove-gray", which I associate with the mourning dovehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mourning_dove. But
In general, the terms "dove" and "pigeon" are used somewhat interchangeably. … In ornithological practice, "dove" tends to be used for smaller species and "pigeon" for larger ones, but this is in no way consistently applied, and historically, the common names for these birds involve a great deal of variation between the terms. The species most commonly referred to as "pigeon" is the feral rock pigeon, common in many cities. (Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbidae)
I wouldn't be at all surprised if the meaning of голубой derives from the pigeon, aka rock dove:
The Rock Dove (Columba livia) or Rock Pigeon, is a member of the bird family Columbidae (doves and pigeons). In common usage, this bird is often simply referred to as the "pigeon". … Wild Rock Doves are pale grey with two black bars on each wing, although domestic and feral pigeons are very variable in colour and pattern. … It has a dark bluish-gray head, neck, and chest with glossy yellowish, greenish, and reddish-purple iridescence along its neck and wing feathers. (YouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBDzpi0ikiU )
Respectfully submitted, Dr. Whom: Consulting Linguist, Grammarian, Orthoëpist, and Philological Busybody
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Date: 2014-05-26 09:09 am (UTC)no more related than blue and green
In Welsh "blue" and "green" are covered by the same word. This is very convenient because of the tendency of water and distant hills/mountain to change colour between "blue" and "green" depending on the weather.
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Date: 2014-05-26 12:06 pm (UTC)* Aaaaah! This last upgrade messed up ibus, and now it isn't offerring me the right characters, WTF? Also, the character selection panel is popping up at the bottom left corner of the screen... This after ibus broke chromium.
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Date: 2014-05-26 02:18 pm (UTC)English is an odd language because despite having an extremely large potential choice of words, due to having shamelessly stolen so many from other languages, we don't have a monolexemic word for dark blue (blue originally meant lighter blue) while many languages do distinguish light and dark blues with a single word each.
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Date: 2014-05-27 05:20 pm (UTC)Gorgeous!
Date: 2014-05-26 12:35 pm (UTC)The effect is still very, very attractive, and I like the slight mismatch.
But thinking about it from a technical viewpoint, do you have a plain metal stylus? Trace the layering from A onto B onto C via slightly compressed paper-- in practice, the stylus can make slightly 'shiny' lines, and is a bit more noticeable on textured paper than plain, but if tracing from the obverse, it also makes the line less visible. Play with it; it's fun for its own sake-- and I think you could rapidly turn "fun" into art.
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Date: 2017-04-17 05:03 am (UTC)If you want to mentally split colors, I'd advise getting a nice continuously graduated color wheel and draw some non-traditional lines. :)